Just your average 95 M3 build...

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Just your average 95 M3 build...

Postby Pzary3233 » Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:30 pm

A Noob to this forum, but not a noob to the e36 Chassis.

Built the silver car, busted motor, multiple owners, etc. Got it back through some horse trading and parted out the BMW motor and drivetrain.

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Now I work at a salvage yard and snagged an aluminum blocked 5.3 and a core T56 transmission that was built by D and D with ALL the goodies. It needs a new input shaft and it's golden.

The UPS guy showed up today with the first parts of the swap...

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[url="www.vorshlag.com"]Vorshlag[/url] LS1 swap Mounts! I was originally going to fabricate my own mounts but WOW! After seeing these mounts in person, there is no way that my work would be that awesome! Tig welded, powdercoated, and beefy goodness! These guys know their stuff about LS1 powered e36 cars! They have some awesome products for other cars as well.

The next thing that the UPS guy dropped off today was my core T56...

It arrived in this:

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I am excited to get everything mocked up now! I'm going to have to wait until Monday before I can do anything since my family is in town for the week.

I've already started to prep the chassis, shaving the bay and cutting off all the extra brackets that are not needed. I'm also in the process of relocating the ABS pump stuff. As I would like to keep ABS.

Finally able to unpack the transmission and got it cleaned up. Purple Power and a steam cleaner works wonders.

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Re: Just your average 95 M3 build...

Postby Pzary3233 » Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:32 pm

HA, yeah. it came a long way from the shell in stevens garage...

The bonfires at PHR were great... miss those days...

Here's a little update:

Fuel System Planning:

The '95 M3 has a pretty good fuel system with a walboro 225gph pump in the tank and using stock lines I think that I will be in good shape.

The fuel system has a feed and return line that goes all the way up to the engine bay and enters in the driver's rear of the engine bay. This may prove to be a safety issue with header clearance.

The oem fuel filter on the BMW is basically under the driver tucked up above the chassis rail in it's own little cubby hole.

I am planning to use a 1999 fuel filter and regulator nothing bling, but proven. AN fittings on both ends and then I'll need to flare the exsisting hardlines so that the return can then be returned in this location and then only have the feed line (AN -6 braided line) going to the fuel rail.

FPR/Filter:
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GM Part#10299146 (or Wix 33737)
(FPR), is from a 1999 C5 Corvette. Most time just ask for a fuel filter from NAPA or any parts dealer



The FBR will require fittings to adapt to traditional 3/8" lines and 5/8" return lines. One option is Russell performance

Fittings needed to adapt
(2) 3/8" fittings, part number RUS-639210 or RUS-640850
For the tank to regulator line and the fuel line connecting to the fuel rails
(1) 5/8" fitting part number RUS-640860
return to the fuel tank from the regulator


-6 intake adaptors:
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From there it is pretty much connect the dots from the stock fuel line to the filter, from the filter to the fuel rail, and from the return to the stock return line. with -6 hose.

I'm not sure what brand I am going with just yet, any ideas?

Also, edited the first post so the pictures work
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Re: Just your average 95 M3 build...

Postby Pzary3233 » Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:36 pm

Got to the shop around 8am this morning after a great birthday surprise organized by Kristin last night!

First things first, I had to get the engine bay somewhat clean so that I wasn't working in grease... Bimmer motors tend to drip oil.... YUCK!

I was also able to get BOTH windows back up! AWESOME!

Pressure washed the engine bay, then washed the Fbody oil pan.

Back inside the shop I swapped the Fbody oil pan onto the 6.0L Long block. Fit like a glove, pickup and all!

Then mated the T56 to the Long block.

Got the engine side motor mounts on...

Then it was time to remove the factory motor mounts. To make way for the Vorshlag motor mounts. They bolted in very easily!

After that It was time to try to shoe horn the T56/LSx package into the engine bay..

Needless to say it IS possible to do it without lowering the subframe... I didn't think of that idea until AFTER I got it in.

As it sits now, I've got the driver's side mount bolt in, and it's sitting on the passenger side mount. However due to the transmission jack being tied up it was not possible to get the other mount bolted up... So Monday evening I'll get that tied up and it will be in for this test fit.

Overall I'm very happy with how things turned out!

Next time I will be using the lift instead of the fork list and I'll slightly drop the sub frame for that extra little bit of space.

Needless to say, I'M EXTACTIC!!!!

PICTURES!

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Apparently in my hurry to get out of the shop saturday I forgot to take one of the motor sitting in the car... I'll walk out at somepoint and take a few.

Here they are:
More pics...

Take today:

Sitting so docile...

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Fitment... not 100% yet but ALMOST there!! It's a tight squeeze for sure!

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Since the car is stored out doors had to cover up the motor for storage, hence the blue stuff....
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Re: Just your average 95 M3 build...

Postby DEFKON99 » Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:38 pm

woah shit!! :eatpop V8 goodness!!
Edge one looks like that stupid cube you buy to reset the brake pistons on doo doo cars -Proctor750

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Re: Just your average 95 M3 build...

Postby Pzary3233 » Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:32 am

Yep, I love the sound of a healthy V8. SO I figured why not take my favorite BMW chassis in throw one in it.
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Re: Just your average 95 M3 build...

Postby Pzary3233 » Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:12 pm

Today is broken up into two posts...
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Now it's sitting in the right place!
After a good 3 hours of work and planning I got the motor, got rid of the charchol canister, and figured out how I am going to route my fuel lines and clutch line.


I'll shut up and let the pictures speak for them selves!

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Look at the engine set back!! It's almost all behind the front "axle"!


Look at the ground clearance!

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I MIGHT even be able to use a Motorsports X Brace!

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The lowest thing is still the sway bar, then the K frame! No busted oil pans for me!
Looking from the back side, I can see why headers are such an issue on this swap!

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Passenger side - Starter will be tight, but lots of room for headers

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The story changes dramatically on the Drivers side
The transmission tunnel can easily swallow the T56, I was surprised actually. There is more room to move my hand around on the transmission with the T56 then there was with the ZF!!! However two things need to be addressed. Though EASY fixes.

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The shifter linkage bracket from the bimmer transmission gets in the way. I will most likely be cutting that out with the rest of the tunnel there to make for an easy shifter swap.
The other issue is just cosmetic...

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I need to find a replacement for this stuff that can withstand the temperatures and water. This isn't going to cut it. Ideas?

Stay tuned for part two!
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Re: Just your average 95 M3 build...

Postby Pzary3233 » Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:15 pm

Work Space today:

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After I finished fighting with the Motor and transmission I decided to plan out my fuel system. As was mentioned in an earlier post, I will be using the Corvette FPR/Filter. I ordered mine from Speedway Motors with -6AN fittings for almost HALF of what I could find them from anywhere else. Here's what I am thinking...

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The soft lines run from the pump to this location where it is met with the hardline. The soft lines will be replaced with -6an line for both the Feed and Return. The blue line is a vapor return line and was removed just after this photo. The line furthest to the left is the rear brake line.

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This is the stock location for the BMW fuel filter. This location looks to be the PERFECT spot for the FPR. I will probably replace the BMW hardlines with the proper size SAE lines so that there is no confusion and no adapters. From the FPR I will then run a single -6 AN line to the fuel rail on the LS6 intake.

It sounds pretty straight forward, so I hope it works!

Oh yeah a Walboro 225 gph pump resides in the stock fuel pump basket.
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Re: Just your average 95 M3 build...

Postby Adam » Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:01 pm

It looks like the swap is really coming along! Keep us posted.
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Re: Just your average 95 M3 build...

Postby Pzary3233 » Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:11 pm

Saturday afternoon while Kristin was off with her brides maids looking at dresses, shoes, and generally speaking having a girls day. I started to attack the wiring harness.

I started out with an 01 Yukon 5.3/4L60E

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The start of a Standalone... 2001 5.3 Harness

Found an awesome site to help me with the paring down of the harness.

http://www.lt1swap.com/wiringharness.htm

This guy has his stuff together!!!

Read through the pages and pages of information it is invaluable!

Check out the menu at the top of the page and click on the Wiring tab for my wiring notes, what I deleted and what I paired with the stock e36 wiring harness. I don’t want to clutter up the blog with a HUGE spreadsheet.

I pared down the harness to only the essential parts to make the engine run. I deleted all of the Emissions and transmission related stuff. I also deleted anything fuel tank related…

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The start of a HUGE wiring mess!

Yeah, the blackberry takes NASTY pictures now…

Today I was able to get to the u pull it yard and grabbed two OBD I harnesses. After I finish up the teardown of the 5.3 harness I will dive into the BMW harness!
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Re: Just your average 95 M3 build...

Postby Pzary3233 » Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:13 pm

I needed to clear up a little issue that came to light… Drive by Wire and Drive by Cable motors are inherently different. The harnesses are different, the ECUs are different and at somepoint, the reluctor wheels are different.

LS1Tech.com is a wealth of information where I came up with the following breakdown:

24x – Black Crank Sensor:
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24x Black CkPS
1997-2005 cars (except GTO, CTSV and a few others thru 2007)
1999-2007 trucks (old body style)

58x – Gray Crank Sensor:
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CkPS Gray 58x
2006 and up cars (except LS4 and as select few others)
2007 and up trucks with single bolt cam applications and new body
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Re: Just your average 95 M3 build...

Postby Pzary3233 » Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:31 pm

I ordered a Vette Filter, and fittings from Speedway motors!

Two day shipping isn’t bad at all! Great Prices, good selection, and fast service.

Speedway Motors - Give them a try!

Here’s what I got:

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Good packaging!

Of course I couldn’t just let it sit there… 2 minutes later and it’s together!

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All assembled!

Quick Parts List:

Wix Vette Filter: 33737
Russell -6an to 3/8″ adaptor – 640850 x2 – For Fuel Feed and LS6 Fuel Rail
Russell -6an to 5/16″ adaptor – 640860 – Return Line
Russel 3/8″ to -6 an Push on Fitting – 64940 – Outlet of Filter to -6an hose
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Re: Just your average 95 M3 build...

Postby Pzary3233 » Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:42 pm

Went to work on the harness last night…

Got the 5.3 harness completely disassembled, labeled and ready to be laid out on the LS6 intake… which reminds me… dude needs to get it on it’s way!

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Everything laid out, with my side kick Jack.

Shortly after that while working on the e36 harness I slipped with my utility knife and gashed my thumb open… first blood of the build…

I also ordered about $250 bucks worth of stuff from Summit Racing yesterday, that should complete the fuel system and convert everything from the silly Metric thick wall tubing that is IMPOSSIBLE to flare to -6an hose, 3/8″, and 5/16″ aluminum tube.

Pics of said blood bath later.
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Re: Just your average 95 M3 build...

Postby Pzary3233 » Fri Jul 02, 2010 8:20 am

This weekend is a long weekend. Originally I was hoping that I could get the car actually running with the L33 5.3 but I do not think that is in the cards. My LS6 intake has still not shown up…

Instead I will be taking my time working on the fuel system and hitting the junk yards for misc pieces to make the swap even more clean. I am working on an idea to hide the bulk of the wiring harness as well!

The plan on the fuel system is to take the stock pump housing and cradle and adapt the -6 an lines and bulkhead fittings to it. Then plastic weld the original ports closed. Not pretty but will do the job.

From the tank to the hard line I will be running -6 an SS braided line.

The Feed line will be 3/8″ Aluminum Fuel line using Russell no flare -6 an adaptors

The Return line will be 5/16″ Aluminum Fuel line using a Russell no flare -6 an adaptor

The fuel filter will be connected to the hard lines via -6 an adapters.

The fuel rail will be connected to the filter via Fuel Rail adapter, Fuel pressure gauge, and -6 an line.

I have a feeling that this will take me most of the day to build… but I need tasks for all weekend. I am sure I will come up with other things that need to be done!

Might even get a little paint work and stuff done… We’ll see!

This is sitting in my office just begging to be installed:
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Re: Just your average 95 M3 build...

Postby Pzary3233 » Fri Jul 02, 2010 11:33 am

I am hoping that I can cut off the original "nipple" drill through the hole to enlarge it for the AN bulkhead fitting. and connect like legos.

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Otherwise it will be cutting off the nipple plastic welding a few pieces together and then tapping into another flat area on the housing.

I've also found some pictures of the e46 pump housing and if it will fit close enough I may try adapting it... I've got one laying around in my parts stash.

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I'll have detailed pictures and thoughts tonight or tomorrow.
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Just your average 95 M3 build...

Postby Adam » Fri Jul 02, 2010 5:01 pm

My favorite part is that the girl goes to do bride/girl things and the dude converts the dining room table into a garage workbench to adapt the wiring harness. Rock on, man, show your chick that the whole house is a garage! Mad props if you start storing parts in the bedroom.

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